Same tier for me.
Same tier for me.
*I unintentionally omitted AK from that top tier.
In terms of pure vibes, heβs top tier. Overall, though, heβs behind Stockton, Malone, Hornaceck, D-Will, Memo, Boozer, Rudy, and Donovan. Probably in a tier with Eaton, B-Russ, Favs, and Ingles. Just ahead of guys like Thurl Bailey, Rubio, and Conley (all of whom I still love).
This is hilarious.
Also, completely enraging.
You really need to watch this whole clip. It's amazing.
It wasnβt always pretty, but it was historic and impressive.
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This study also doesnβt measure a host of other things that may be equally (if not more) tied to the goals of a 2-hour block: time with family, family study, etc.
I do think the consolidated schedule sadly sacrificed both community and learning. But Iβve seen some things improve too.
I do think itβs too soon to say. This also overlooks a number of other changes around the same time that weβre still working through (HT/VTβministering; HP/EQ consolidation; changed role of Bishops; new youth program, etc.). Iβve seen some evidence that the youth have benefited significantly.
There were a couple times tonight I had to ask, βwho exactly were you passing that to, Brice?β
Fair. lol π
While Iβm in a different place with the Church (actor and believing member), I value our friendship, completely respect your decision, and very much appreciate your well-considered perspective on this and many other issues. It helps me be a better person.
I can! It was a great show for its time. And paved the way for the Pixar film Inside Out. π
Perhaps not. But I saw Hermanβs Head and Woops!
Oof.
Sure. Itβs possible. And I could easily be wrong. But Iβd be surprised if he changed course on this, especially knowing that most of this course was started under President Monson (and in part by GBH) then implemented by President Nelson.
Thatβs exactly the type of logistical issues Iβm referring to: YW are hiking, YM are going to play baseball, Primary is touring a museum. And then you add Mom and Dad having to make EQ/RS on top of thatβ¦ it gets to be too much.
As I said, itβs a valid perspective, but one that I donβt see the Church adopting for the reasons Iβve already stated (but again, I could be wrong)
As I said, thatβs valid (and one could make a similar argument about the three-hour block). But the Church was clearly doing so in favor of reducing burdens and moving to a home-centered, Church-supported program that makes church attendance possible for more people. I donβt see that changing.
Also: YM/YW/Primary activities during the week have *very* different purposes than classes that are held on Sundays. The kids need to have those separate activities not just lessons (and 2-3 hours to combine them on Wednesdays would be⦠a lot).
+logistical issues if activities are held elsewhere.
The short answer is it wonβt work for a significant number of families and individuals in many/most places. Too many people have work, school, and other conflicts on weeknights. In a church where youβre expected to attend RS, EQ, etc., itβs very problematic to hold it when fewer can attend.
Iβm not disagreeing about these issues or concerns, or the appeal of your ideas. Itβs all valid.
But right now, the Churchβs emphasis/direction is on simplification and uniformity in basic meetings, and I donβt see that changing anytime soon (which is why theyβre considering the 1 hour block).
The response to that problem would be that these issues should be addressed via ministering brothers and sisters, Ward and FT missionaries, optional small group study, and other things that are already expressly permitted (for example, our RS in SLC has a weekly CFM study night).
The whole point of a shorter block and the mandate to reduce and simplify is to have a setup that is home-centered and church-supported.
We do lose community and some learning with that. But the Church has been clear that this is the direction they want to go in, and I donβt see that changing.
Again, I understand the appeal. I just think itβs highly unlikely that the Church abandons a uniform meeting schedule in favor of a setup that is unworkable in many (if not most) places, adds to administrative and travel burdens, and leaves many people out.
Most of all, the Church has been operating under a mandate the last few years to reduce and simplify meetings and administrative burdens, while keeping uniform schedules. I donβt see that changing, which makes it unlikely that theyβd move part of the block to another day. But I could be wrong.
Also, in many places (if not most), youβre more likely to have scheduling conflicts on week nights (including work, school, community, and even entertainment). The Church would be leaving an awful lot of people out of Priesthood/RS if you moved that to a week night.
Iβm sure many would like that. But IMO, itβs unlikely that the Church would abandon the uniform meeting schedule except where there is a limited and specific need (for example, many nursing home/assisted living units already have weeknight SS/EQ/RS).
Iβm sure all options have been discussed but my guess is that would be unlikely. In many places, people still have to travel significant distances to church and weeknight activities are held less frequently (if at all). Adding to those travel burdens to shorten the block wouldnβt make much sense.
From what Iβve heard (which may not be true everywhere theyβre trying it), itβs rotating between a full sacrament meeting one week and then 15 min sacrament with ~ 40 minutes for priesthood/RS/SS on an alternating basis. Still have fast and testimony meeting monthly.