Bad CBRNE Takes

Screen capture 1/2 of a Bluesky thread: @dankaszeta@bsky.social: Most gloves are nowhere near good enough for the temperatures of tear gas grenades. Cindi @clroberts.bsky.social: OV GLOVE!! @dankaszeta@bsky.social: Explain your post Cindi @clroberts.bsky.social: The Ov Glove is for taking hot things out of the oven. It has fingers and grippers, perfect for lobbing a gas canister back at the masked intruders😉

@jimsmithson.bsky.social: and lose your hands in the process. @clroberts.bsky.social: No...they are 100% better than oven mitts @spriddler.bsky.social: They are good for holding something up to 540 F which is close to the heat of a tear gas canister. Just don't hold on for long!

Again, breaking the format because you lemming-ass fuckers seem to thirst for third degree burns above all else:

DO NOT HANDLE ORDNANCE. EVER. EXTRA-ESPECIALLY IF IT’S BURNING. NOT EVEN WITH OV GLOVES. THEY’RE RATED TO *LESS THAN HALF* THE TEMPERATURE OF A BURNING CS GRENADE.

YOU FUCKING MORONS.

temps of up to 700° CELSIUS depending on the device! gloves will NOT help! this is how you find out what debridement feels like!

Screen capture of a post by @rhymeswithcamera.bsky.social: Do not look away. That is nerve agent. If you think fascism is bad but you're not fighting back in some meaningful way by now, WTF is holding you back? Fear? Because hiding is not going to save you. Silence is violence. PS your neighbors see you hiding, doing nothing. They will remember you. [attached photo of a man being restrained on the ground by federal law enforcement while an additional officer sprays pepper spray in his face]

Screen capture of a thread: Minnesota Star Tribune: “U.S. Customs and Border Patrol Cmdr. Greg Bovino is seen deploying a gas canister at Mueller Park in south Minneapolis this afternoon. Video by Ben Luhmann.” [still of video showing Greg Bovino & other federal law enforcement officers in tactical gear. Green signal smoke wafts in the background] paradigm317.bsky.social: That's banned type of gas. Thats weapons grade shit. The green @crabbycoach.bsky.social Not sure why the protesters haven't realized they should just throw that shit back.

I typically avoid commentary because that’s the genre I’m in but this is an a safety issue:

DO NOT HANDLE BURNING CS OR SIGNAL SMOKE CANISTERS.

They’re extremely hot. There is nothing that you can do to mitigate CS or signal smoke that outweighs the short & long term risks of burning yourself.

Emberlyn 🔥 BOS 1/22-24 @emberlynslade.bsky.social: I'm um. I'm speechless. But I'm hearing reports that ICE has deployed nerve gas on protestors in Minneapolis. Big, green plumes of gas. That's.. a war crime.. against American citizens... I don't believe in God but if there is one, please God save us all. Nerve Gas Symptoms below 👇

Dan Kaszeta FRHistS @dankaszeta.bsky.social: "Nerve gas" and "nerve agent" are not broad generic terms and they're simply not applicable at all to smoke grenades, tear gas, or pepper spray @alexfilonov.bsky.social: They are. Tear gas and pepper spray are banned on the battlefield.

The Tennessee Holler @thetnholler.bsky.social: “The mob boss president” [quoting a tweet and attached video by Aaron Rupar: Trump: "The UK is very well protected. You know why? Because I like them, that's why. That's the ultimate protection."] Reply by Gen X Vet @bluegenxveteran.bsky.social: “Or because they have nukes and VX gas and a serious military.” Reply by [CHEMICAL WEAPONS EXPERT] Dan Kaszeta FRHistS @dankaszeta.bsky.social: “The UK doesn't have VX” Reply by Gen X Vet @bluegenxveteran.bsky.social: “Sure Jan.”

Relevant *good* CBRN take:

Post: Acyn @acyn.bsky.social Senator Murphy coming out of private briefing on the attack on Iran's nuclear sites: It still appears that we have only set back the Iranian nuclear program by a handful of months... the allegations that we have obliterated their program just don't seem to stand up... [post includes a video of SEN Murphy speaking to the press] Reply: Tiger-Fred @tiger-fred.bsky.social • 5d There was no radiation from the explosions. So either they missed their targets or the Iranians moved the uranium to a safer place.

Regarding the ballot box arsons: @sascrads.bsky.social: "Devices sounds like bombs or something? Regardless a+ to all the investigators figuring it out asap" @nutty.land: "Gotta be thermite: just a mix of readily available powdered metals and metal oxides with a magnesium wick, gets hot enough to melt its way through steel." bEODt comments: As of 29 Oct 2024, there's no evidence to indicate thermite. A vast multitude of methods, limited only by the attacker's imagination, will cause paper ballots to burn in a metal box and none should be presumed over another until physical evidence narrows possible methods or confirms one above all. In general, as an average citizen, it's best to keep an open mind until official investigations conclude and return verifiable facts.

Jacob: “A challenge with that discussion - is this a Tesla issue or something inherent to battery powered vehicles? Anecdotally, what l've heard from local old men yelling at clouds is that they're afraid of all battery powered vehicles, down to e-bikes, because of terrible fires.” Gavin: “It's an EV problem. But most fire departments have the ability to deal with EV fires nowadays anyways. It's not really much of a problem compared to have a gas bomb under your car that can go boom.”

Martin: “Davy Crockett nuclear bazooka (recoilless rifle). 1 am working on a blog post discussing its (still technically classified) yield and why it matters (governmentality, $, USA nuclear governance, over classification...) You can enable my work: patreon.com/nuclearanthro paypal.me/nuclearanthro” (The “bazooka” series were not recoilless rifles.)

The Usefulest Idiot: “Hamas and Jihad rocket payloads max out at 22kilos. there's no way they can do that kind of damage. don't believe the hype”

Some dumb fucking tankie: “Qassam rockets are steel pipes containing max 10kg of ammonite payloads. Ammonite is homemade TNT, the weakest possible. You must be within 4m of a blast to be killed by 10kg industrial grade TNT. “You dont conclude the nature of blasts by looking at videos, but by finite element methods you dipshit”

Dan Kaszeta, quote tweeting a total assclown: "ATGMS and HEAT round are not cheical munitions." A total assclown: "Yes they are. They are non kenetic rounds by the general defintion (really a heat jet is kenetic and moves at 12000 fps). They are considered chemical." -16 points

“A Reasonable Person” argues with a chemical weapons expert about the correct spelling of “fuze.”

Ulfric Norseman: Nerve gas is legal over the counter. False premise.

Responding to back-and-forth: Ulfric Norseman: Nope. Chemical weapons you probably have in your house right now. Mustard gas.

Dan Kaszerta (actual chemical weapons expert): Nope. I literally don’t have mustard gas in my house. Stop shutting up my timeline. Ulfric Norseman (summiting Mount Stupid): Bleach and ammonia. You don’t have which one?

There is no prophylactic which obviates the need for soldiers to wear a gas mask and protective suit during a CBRN attack.

Not a bomb.

(Definitely don’t carry gasoline in a plastic bag, though.)