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A group of anonymous writers seeking to inform the writing community about a preditory editor who has damaged our careers We do not do this for retribution, but to prevent them from doing this to other people

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Our current thought is hopefully some people will watch Charlie more closely and Charlie will hesitate to do this again, to someone else. If that is all we accomplish here, that is enough.

10.06.2025 06:51 ๐Ÿ‘ 0 ๐Ÿ” 0 ๐Ÿ’ฌ 3 ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

Given the amount of hatred aimed at this account currently, none of us are willing to continue running it. Even if we presented our evidence now, we would be accused of fabricating it. Unfortunately, we did not plan this well and planning for Indigo's crisis wasn't possible.

10.06.2025 06:51 ๐Ÿ‘ 0 ๐Ÿ” 0 ๐Ÿ’ฌ 1 ๐Ÿ“Œ 1

Hi, I'm Wiskey. Indigo, the person who started this account and was running it, is currently experiencing a family crisis and just sent me the account information to update things. I'll keep this brief.

10.06.2025 06:51 ๐Ÿ‘ 0 ๐Ÿ” 0 ๐Ÿ’ฌ 2 ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

The evidence isn't fabricated, unfortunately it is very real

We did not, however, do any of the screenshot editing required to protect our identies beforehand. Mostly from a lack of volunteers to risk being potentially outed

ONE of us has stepped forward. They are editing as I type. Patience

07.06.2025 20:15 ๐Ÿ‘ 0 ๐Ÿ” 0 ๐Ÿ’ฌ 1 ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

It will be coming. The evidence we have requires editing to remove details that would identify members of our group

We really don't want to deal with what this account has been dealing with on our main accounts

07.06.2025 19:16 ๐Ÿ‘ 1 ๐Ÿ” 0 ๐Ÿ’ฌ 1 ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

Pics and receipts are coming. I've had a couple people not even associated with this account reach out and say they are getting random attacks, so one of us is willing to take the potential hit

The avatar was a bad choice. It was a meme we found and didn't see the fine text, we're sorry. Changing

07.06.2025 19:06 ๐Ÿ‘ 0 ๐Ÿ” 0 ๐Ÿ’ฌ 2 ๐Ÿ“Œ 1

I was just dealing with one for the last hour and finally blocked them. They were not listening or communicating. Honestly I think they were a lot angrier than I was. I was just tired of their constant pings and refusal to read the entire skeet

07.06.2025 18:34 ๐Ÿ‘ 0 ๐Ÿ” 0 ๐Ÿ’ฌ 1 ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

I've seen a lot of that from them, but admittedly it's been almost two years for me. It's possible they've stopped calling out people who mildly offend them publicly and started doing... this

Some of our members are much more recent to this story than I am. The older of us wish we'd spoken sooner

07.06.2025 18:32 ๐Ÿ‘ 0 ๐Ÿ” 0 ๐Ÿ’ฌ 0 ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

It's happened a few times. I was witness to I think three before it happened to me

It looks very different in there than it does on this end

07.06.2025 18:25 ๐Ÿ‘ 0 ๐Ÿ” 0 ๐Ÿ’ฌ 0 ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

I wish check through the exchanges and see if there is anything that won't be too identifying, but I can't promise anything. If Charlie figures out who that screenshot came from, none of us want their attack dogs on our personal pages

07.06.2025 18:24 ๐Ÿ‘ 0 ๐Ÿ” 0 ๐Ÿ’ฌ 1 ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

I have blocked the account that was acting like a very loud attack dog and nitpicking every small thing while ignoring most of the details we are comfortable providing

While we do have screenshots and receipts, we wish to protect our personal accounts from this exact behavior. Apologies

07.06.2025 18:22 ๐Ÿ‘ 0 ๐Ÿ” 0 ๐Ÿ’ฌ 5 ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

It's probably worth noting that on Charlie's end, it probably looks quite different. They will have painted themselves the victims to... whatever they said we did

Which we didn't. It was so bizarre from our angle, as well as painful. We all really loved Charlie before these blindside attacks

07.06.2025 18:17 ๐Ÿ‘ 0 ๐Ÿ” 0 ๐Ÿ’ฌ 1 ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

Admittedly, they may have deleted the receipts on their end in the Discord, but they did call out tweets pretty regularly on Twitter. I don't know if they're still doing them on Bluesky, but I assume

07.06.2025 18:13 ๐Ÿ‘ 0 ๐Ÿ” 0 ๐Ÿ’ฌ 1 ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

That is not what the abuse was

07.06.2025 18:04 ๐Ÿ‘ 0 ๐Ÿ” 0 ๐Ÿ’ฌ 0 ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

I'm a survivor of emotional, physical, and psychological abuse in addition to this editor's emotional abuse

I know what it looks like from the inside, do you?

07.06.2025 18:01 ๐Ÿ‘ 0 ๐Ÿ” 0 ๐Ÿ’ฌ 1 ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

It wasn't 24. I did say "around" but if it pleases you,they say it was 27

07.06.2025 17:59 ๐Ÿ‘ 0 ๐Ÿ” 0 ๐Ÿ’ฌ 0 ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

No, but abuse is abuse is abuse

And people do always come for the victims more than the abuser

07.06.2025 17:56 ๐Ÿ‘ 0 ๐Ÿ” 0 ๐Ÿ’ฌ 1 ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

I said seven, and that manuscript, the person in question would have been fine with a dozen, but around two dozen did feel excessive for "ready to publish"

07.06.2025 17:54 ๐Ÿ‘ 0 ๐Ÿ” 0 ๐Ÿ’ฌ 1 ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

It's my understanding that if a survivor or a victim steps forward, even anonymously, it might be wise to listen to them

Hi. I'm a survivor and I am shielding the others who are still standing too close to the pain of what happened

07.06.2025 17:52 ๐Ÿ‘ 1 ๐Ÿ” 0 ๐Ÿ’ฌ 1 ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

In their Discord and on their socials

07.06.2025 17:51 ๐Ÿ‘ 0 ๐Ÿ” 0 ๐Ÿ’ฌ 1 ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

When I started working with Charlie they were claiming they could do better. Did they stop doing that? I haven't been near their account in almost two years

07.06.2025 17:50 ๐Ÿ‘ 0 ๐Ÿ” 0 ๐Ÿ’ฌ 1 ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

Charlie pretty much bullied a few of us about this. When those argued back, Charlie belittled them

All of us chose to do what was right for our books. While we don't have any idea why Charlie suddenly attacked us, we've speculated that might have been why. Or about four other things we don't know

07.06.2025 17:49 ๐Ÿ‘ 0 ๐Ÿ” 0 ๐Ÿ’ฌ 1 ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

We're not trying to ruin their livelihood anymore than Charlie tried to ruin ours

07.06.2025 17:46 ๐Ÿ‘ 0 ๐Ÿ” 0 ๐Ÿ’ฌ 0 ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

We want to raise awareness. You can find the receipts from Charlie (or possibly Felix) if you're looking for them

07.06.2025 17:45 ๐Ÿ‘ 0 ๐Ÿ” 0 ๐Ÿ’ฌ 1 ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

Missing around seven things seems forgivable in a Big 4 published book these days. That was a book Charlie had declared ready for immediate publication

07.06.2025 17:44 ๐Ÿ‘ 0 ๐Ÿ” 0 ๐Ÿ’ฌ 1 ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

I'm hardly ranting. I'm answering your questions while I make breakfast

Your tone is incredibly hostile, however. And while I could block you and have considered it, I want to make clear we have nothing to hide beyond our identities

07.06.2025 17:42 ๐Ÿ‘ 0 ๐Ÿ” 0 ๐Ÿ’ฌ 1 ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

We've all worked with new editors since. We're all a lot less new to things than we were. I've worked with four now, none of them as frankly abusive to my writing and my ego as Charlie was

07.06.2025 17:40 ๐Ÿ‘ 0 ๐Ÿ” 0 ๐Ÿ’ฌ 1 ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

Yes and yes. The author has final say, not the editor

07.06.2025 17:39 ๐Ÿ‘ 0 ๐Ÿ” 0 ๐Ÿ’ฌ 1 ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

We never said they were! Charlie maligned our names after finishing our books and after a period of perfectly normal interactions but without any provocation on our sides. It literally came from nowhere

07.06.2025 17:38 ๐Ÿ‘ 0 ๐Ÿ” 0 ๐Ÿ’ฌ 1 ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

We didn't tag them or respond to anything they skeeted here

We are merely presenting what actually happened

I am sorry the truth offends you. It offended us too. The person running this account is the least traumatized by this, the others are deeply affected

07.06.2025 17:36 ๐Ÿ‘ 0 ๐Ÿ” 0 ๐Ÿ’ฌ 1 ๐Ÿ“Œ 0