Michael Weiss

Yes, I'm sure that would greatly improve our reconstructions!😀 and we can also rewrite Hund as $§¡¢ while we are at it.

I haven't read it yet, but it does contain a lot of interesting material on 19th and 20th century views on "Aryanism". But why is it also necessary to deny the existence of cognates and maybe language?

Demoule's translation is also an OUP publication.

"The relationship between the two words depends on a set of complex judgments about similarity and difference,
in terms of sound and meaning, and in relation to methodologies of identifying systematic as opposed to unsystematic similarity."

Comparative method is dumb and uncool.

"Firstly, what are these entities that are alleged to be related, and how do we define them? The written citation form is itself the product of a set of representational conventions with their own history."

What we just elicited these items from speakers? Still no good?

C. Hutton 2025 The People that Never Were OUP: "The proposition that the German word Hund and the English word hound are cognate or related etymologically or, to use William Jones’s words, “sprung from some common source,” is difficult to sustain on close examination."

So no cognates. Got it.

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Thanks!

Thanks!

Semiticists, is there a more recent treatment of the "middle affricate hypothesis" than Kogan's discussion in Weninger 2011? Is it now communis opinio that "zayin" was an affricate in PS or in Canaanite? I'd be grateful for any pointers. @phdnix.bsky.social ky.social, @bnuyaminim.bsky.social

Thanks for given me the opportunity to help!

There's a little bit of cheating (e.g. αἰ is not Attic or Koine, μιν is a poetic form), but it's a good job. See M. Treu. 1896. Antistoicheion, Byzantinische Zeitschrift 5: 337-8.

καὶ γὰρ οὖν πέπωκα καὶ *ἐρρύμμην* καὶ ἀνέψυξα καὶ ἐμαυτὸν θανάτου *ἐρρυμην*. Then I drank, washed, and refreshed myself and saved myself from death. ταῦτα δὲ πάντα οὐκ ἂν μοι συνέπεσεν, *αἰ ῥύμην* ἐβάδιζον πόλεως. All these things wouldn’t have happened to me if I were walking a street of a city.

πηγὴν μέντοι πλησίον οὖσαν αἰσθόμενος μόλις τε πρὸς αὐτὴν εἵρπυσα κἀκεῖθεν αὖθις ἀναστὰς ὡδοιπόρουν. But perceiving that there was a spring nearby I creeped toward it and then getting up again I walked.

καύματος οὖν ἐπιγενομένου κατὰ γῆς τε *ἐρρίμμην* καὶ ἀπεγίνωσκον, πῶς ἂν ἐκεῖθεν *αἰροίμην*. When the heat of the day came I fell to the ground I was at a loss as to how I could lift myself up from there.

καὶ δὴ τὴν ὡς ἐκεῖνον φέρουσαν ἀγνοῶν πρὸς ἐμαυτὸν ἔλεγον· 'εἰ μη τις *ἐρεῖ μιν* *αἱροίμην* ἂν καταδεδικασθαι μᾶλλον ἢ πλανᾶσθαι ἀνήνυτα'. And indeed not knowing the way leading to him I said to myself, if nobody will tell me this, I would prefer to be sentenced than to wander vainly.

*ἐρήμην* ποτὲ καταδικασθεὶς ἐπὶ τὸν δικαστὴν ᾔειν καὶ οὐχ εὗρον ὃν ἂν *ἐροίμην*, τίς ποτε χῶρος *αἱρεῖ μιν*. Once having been sentenced to a default judgment, I was going to the judge and I didn’t find any one I could ask which place held him.

Α linguistic joke from Maximus Planudes (1260 – c. 1305). The joke is that the 10 highlighted words are all pronounced /erimin/!

Uh-oh! Now the cranks will know I think they are cranks. I think Celtomania is the original -mania.

If any recently Ph.D.-ed Indo-Europeanist is interested in applying for this, please get in touch with me. Fair warning: it is super-competitive. as.cornell.edu/research/kla...

There are no Attic texts which still employ the letter qoppa and write the sequence /ky/ as κυ. As far as I know, and I could have missed something, all instances of the sequence /ky/ or maybe /ku/ were written ϙυ in alphabets still employing qoppa.

From texts dating before 525 one finds Ϙυδίμαχ[ος] (600-575 BCE, Agora 21 D 12) ϙύτ[ρας] (Agora 21 K 2, 6th cent.) and Κϙυελνιος = Κυλλήνιος (AVI 2211, Cerveteri, 560–550) which may indicate uncertainty about which sign to use.

For Attic this is simply not true. The letter qoppa went out of use in Attic after 525 and was replaced by kappa. Thus only Attic texts from before 525 can potentially be informative.

An oft-repeated argument in favor of a fronted value for υ in Attic and East Ionic is the “fact” that the letter κ, not ϙ, is used before υ, since it no longer symbolized a back vowel— Qoppa supposedly was only used before back vowels or l plus a back vowel. So Allen Vox Graeca p. 67, n. 11.

Yes, the non-rhotacism in caesaries is similar to that in miser, but the survive of short a in a medial syllable is maybe more of a mystery. It should be †caeseries.

"Too many wordy explanations relating to Sanskrit and Buddhist writing, without the basic, fundamental of a chart of the declensions and conjugations.
Very disappointed."

Skid Kid, if you are listening, check out Appendix: Paradigms 252-275 where declensions and paradigms are given in gory detail😀

Amazon review of Kuśiññe Kantwo by Skid Kid: "If you have studies Sanskrit and Buddhism, these would work well. For someone just wanting an elementary book of Tocharian, it is terrible."

‪Dennis, you are probably right but I was trying to capture the verbal abstract. @davidstifter.bsky.social why is dánugud better?

THT is for Tocharische Handschriften aus den Turfanfunden. āyor is the verbal noun from the verb ai- 'give' which is cognate with Gk. αἴνυμαι 'take' and αἶσα 'lot'. saim is derived from the verb sai- 'support' which is unclear. ste is from *h1sk'e-to an iterative mid. of *h1es- 'be' (cf. Lat. escit)

There are two fake Old Irish sentences in there!