I think I'm done with these people for a while. This is not how I intend to spend my entire Saturday.
I think I'm done with these people for a while. This is not how I intend to spend my entire Saturday.
It wasn't just one shipment, it was an entire class of weapons. A type of weapon that Trump had to actively resume sending. Just like he actively cut aid deliveries and actively rescinded sanctions against Israeli settlers that were attacking Palestinians.
But I'm tired of repeating myself.
Just, wow.
This was from 2018: www.refugeesinternational.org/reports-brie....
This is from 2025: tcf.org/content/repo...
But the guy you call genocide Joe did this: www.npr.org/2024/08/28/g....
I'm sure there's a MAGA hat out there somewhere just waiting for you to put it on.
Then explain how it is that justify not giving Biden credit for pausing the 2000 pound bomb deliveries to Israel by saying it doesn't matter because he continued to send them other weapons? You're the one acting like all weapons are interchangeable.
Got it. So your claims that it's all useless performative bullshit only applies to the actions Dems take.
Meanwhile, Biden actually delivered aid to Gaza, and you called him genocide Joe.
And yet your position is if we stopped that and only gave them knives, it would be the same thing, Jesus Christ.
But they did endorse him. Just not on your preferred timeline.
I genuinely have not seen any evidence of uncommitted folks encouraging anyone to vote against Trump. Got a link so I can read about it?
Let me also ask, did you make fun of Biden's failed attempt to build a temporary pier to deliver aid to Gaza, then turn around and enthusiastically support the Global Sumud Flotilla?
Because based on our conversation I'd say you did both of those things.
Got it. So you really do believe that giving someone a knife is the same as giving them a nuclear bomb.
Not sure where that leaves any hope for a productive conversation here.
Uncommitted went beyond the primaries. It's also interesting that the Uncommitted people had the exact same reaction when Dems didn't endorse Mamdani during his primary. Pot meet kettle.
So you're saying that weapons are all interchangeable?
You can't process the idea that one specific kind of weapon that was misused in Gaza could be restricted while other types that weren't used in Gaza were not restricted?
Well, DHS is still unfunded over ICE, aren't they?
And let me ask you the same question I keep asking and never getting an answer to.
Do you believe the Palestinians in Gaza are better off under Trump than they would have been under Harris?
That you still claim any Democrat supports genocide is just more evidence that you're so far down the rabbit hole of your priors that you can't see the surface.
We're still back to calling delivering aid the same as cutting aid, and pausing weapons deliveries the same as delivering weapons.
And the trend I mentioned earlier continues. So by your own logic you voted for genocide after doing everything you could to disempower the only person with a reasonable chance to do anything about it.
It doesn't fucking matter if they honor it or not. You still demand it. How is that not obvious? Was the US Civil War fought without the demands being known? Do you really think the allies didn't demand anything of the Nazis? You don't think that's the whole point behind the war?
Of course you misunderstood my point. Maybe I misunderstood yours.
Let me speak plainly. You, as a voter need to keep fucking showing up to every election and temper the "I can't bring myself to vote for this less than perfect candidate," thought with "things can always get worse."
I guess that's easy for y'all since you don't demand a damn thing from the other team. Why it's almost as if you approve of that team and you're lying about which team you're on.
I'm not even sure what your point is here. Biden was the one that worked towards the cease fire. It happened before Trump took office. But y'all seem to be hooked on this idea that there's no difference between Mr "Netanyahu has a job to finish" Trump and the guy that tried to deliver aid to Gaza.
Got it. So you don't really care about the Palestinians, they're just props to you. Easy.
I'm not going to argue over that. You're still saying giving weapons is the same as not giving weapons. Feel better about it that I've phrased your delusion more to your liking?
I'm not the one that enabled Trump 2.0. That's on you and yours.
Voting is not one and done. They have been the most important of our lifetimes.
Nice of you to so plainly admit that to agree with you means up is down, pausing weapons sales is the same as selling weapons, delivering aid is the same as not delivering aid, and sanctioning people for violence is the same as encouraging those people to be violent.
Trump resumed the weapons sales, cut the aid, and rescinded the sanctions, but you try to claim they are the same.
If that's the case, how do you explain Biden pausing some weapons sales over their use in Gaza, trying multiple ways to deliver aid to Gaza and sanctioning WB settlers over violence against Palestinians?
While also ignoring the 700,000+ dead from Trump's USAID decimation.
Funny how the g word doesn't apply to those people.
Yeah, Biden paused some weapons sales, tried multiple ways to deliver aid, and sanctioned WB settlers over violence against Palestinians. After he won Trump resumed the weapons sales, cut the aid, and lifted the sanctions.
But these folks think they are the same and focus on dragging Dems.
Which of course reminds me that you STILL refuse to answer my question of if you believe Gaza is better off for Harris losing.