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I love stuff like Vsauce, but you won't catch me dead calling these guys "researchers", or really anything much more than 101 professors or Wikipedia summarizers

Like, hell, all those fun chemistry accounts on YouTube are always like "fuck I couldn't get this to work right for some reason" lol

Sorry I should have been more clear too lmao, I meant that he was posing an open/rhetorical question there

Like, unless I'm missing part of the conversation here (maybe I am), OP just said "prove it's not conscious" to people who are rejecting that possibility, and I don't think that deserves mockery or that he was being definitive himself at all

wasting your time by considering it at all, either! Consciousness is an extremely complex topic indeed, and I'm not going to take a definitive stance of "well it can't possibly be conscious" any more seriously than the inverse statement

There's a difference between asking for proof from a confident claimant, and considering the philosophy and physical complexities of something that we don't have a way to strictly prove - you're correct that we're going in circles if we try to definitely prove it, but it doesn't mean that you're

I'll never be someone who insists that something IS absolutely conscious or DOES feel for certain, but I'm also never going to reject that possibility in almost anything that isn't a stone-cold rock floating alone in space lol

Naturally! But that's where my point comes in - I'm inclined to at least pay some consideration to the maximalist possibilities of consciousness in automated entities like life and machines, since my own consciousness is both certain to me and logically seems like it shouldn't even be possible

Unironically, I've always felt like it was pretty intuitively obvious that they almost certainly do feel emotions and a strong consistent conscious experience, so it's very strange to me that most people seem to have the opposite intuition about them - like, have you ever interacted with a bug?

You see a threat and your brainstem kicks in - you're wired up to do it, it doesn't require the subjective experience of emotion, and your goals are just as instinctual as those of an LLM finding the next best token

You could also dose a human on a bunch of fucked up psychedelics and make them drink Jim Jones' Kool-Aid pretty easily

He rivals Elon's posting quality

It depends on the console - even though they don't tend to have a visible BIOS, most of them did at least have very simple boot routines that checked certain details about the cartridge, and they could run some really minimal checks

May as well be magic/alchemy

My friend Ted Nelson was one of the first people to try it out! He was great friends with Englebart

Interesting - I guess that's sorta similar to Americans from Kansas complaining about rich coastal elites, but they have a new iPhone and go to restaurants all the time, just not with a fancy skyline behind them

Maybe it's just a modern culture thing specifically, but I always get the impression that the vast majority of people distrust politeness on some level, like "hmm what do you want from me?"

As someone autistic, I hadn't even considered the angle of "trying to figure out how Fake its politeness is" lmfao

I wish we lived in that world of neuroplastic LLMs already! It'll be so awesome when they can learn and adapt in real time

Hey hey, New Jersey is the hidden benefit of playing here, it's just that the stadium itself is in a gross overbuilt wetland (but there's nice suburbs 5-10 minutes away! And so many others just a bit further)

Something interesting that I'm not sure was subconscious in your post here is that we tend to refer to a lot of assassins by their full name, including the middle!

It's not because of the bullshit reasons they mention, but I am really concerned that this particular strain of zero-sum, morally-accusatory nihilism is generally rampant with most people these days, even non-conservatives

Hell, the players' unions are arguably too strong these days in a lot of ways

My take on my data being sold has always been "whatever fuck it, they're just looking at whether I like buying orange soda and then telling an ad agency to show me that"

People are still expecting cheap treats, actually - that's why the Democrats will win when they're inevitably way more expensive, and why a Republican will win the election after that because the Democrat didn't give them $10,000,000 in treat refunds

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that the crypto-Nazi is most likely going to be at least as bad as her in the best case scenario

The whole oyster section makes sense if you read "oysters" as "cocaine"

Ukraine has got to be so thrilled

Iran could end this now by buttering the hell out of Trump, saying "we unconditionally surrender!", and then giving him a massive list of generous demands because he doesn't actually know what "unconditional" means

And I'm not even kidding, just appeal to his ego and it would work instantly

He unironically drops to single digit poll numbers if this is true