but I guess my question is: is there a sense of *fannish* generations & generational arguments. (sweating as I try not to offend sportsfans with my total ignorance lol) but like: are they still getting into heated fights because of a tailgating policy that Fred W. implemented in 1957
06.03.2026 22:39
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Yeah, & I mean to undercut what I'm saying & strengthen your point- the number of times I've been treated disrespectfully and all but called "kid," in my late 30s/early 40s, with gray in my beard, as I entered fandom for the first time, yowza
06.03.2026 22:36
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Occurs to me that in no point in this thread did I reference this being about SFF. Chef's kiss
06.03.2026 22:33
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I am overcaffeinated and just finished Two Hours Of Dealing With Car Things. I don't know much I'm actually disagreeing with @chloroformtea.bsky.social here but: don't know! As a chaser: I'm really wondering how these old/new guard discussions play out in other fandoms. Is it a thing in sports?
06.03.2026 22:29
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Maybe because I have a somewhat scholarly approach to the fieldβI can forgive a lot of BS and bizarre hang-ups from the old guard in return for a few nuggets of insight & theory here & there; as long as current stewards are rooting out old poisons the institutional knowledge is worth it.
06.03.2026 22:29
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There's an *immense* but I think somewhat subliminal/mostly-unplanned pressure in our culture to focus on the new, the current moment, that's all for nostalgia but against living traditions & memory, and I think we need to watch out for that as much as for over-venerating the past.
06.03.2026 22:29
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And I get as weirded out by closing doors on still-living or relatively-recently-dead authors & thinkers as I do by closing doors on the newer generations. (Particularly as *I* age, lol.) And obviously, don't want to discount the power imbalances that go w/age, in various ways.
06.03.2026 22:29
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Or that there's value to periodically saying "we've solved this" or "that's not something that interests me". But I get nervous about saying we can or should make some kind of generational break, IF we're trying to continue that thing of Reading Together. It's a young field in the grand scheme...
06.03.2026 22:29
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Butβwhatever this social thing is that we're doing, Reading Together, fandom + academia + pro/quasi-pro writingβwhat we're doing is continuing a conversation, picking up parts of it & building on it. Definitely don't want to deny there are parts we should drop.
06.03.2026 22:29
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(Certainly, as a pretty isolated reader, just grabbing stuff from the library & used bookstores, that's mostly how I started out; the context and theories and beefs came much later.)
06.03.2026 22:29
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On the one hand, you can only read a finite number of books, and I think to some extent you should always approach the work as it is, as you read it; to some extent you always do. There's a way in which books are Free Of The Discourse unless you're actually seeking that out, & that's good.
06.03.2026 22:29
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Not trying to be counter-spicy, and there is great worth in the "let the past die, kill it if you have to" approach, particularly in regard to fandom. But: I don't know! I'm of at least two minds.
06.03.2026 22:29
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I can't remember if you've referenced it, but Walton's "Informal History of the Hugos" essays are a good source for could-have-beens & also-rans, too
06.03.2026 20:49
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Agree, he's one of those golden age writers that make me scratch my head about who is remembered/celebrated vs not. Also weirdly anticipating the "cozy" turn!
06.03.2026 20:37
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I think a lot of times, editing is really just remembering what people have said and repeating it back to them so that they can read it through.
βAaron Bady
(and, yes! A lot of editing is listening)
06.03.2026 16:38
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This is a good start. Glad to see @reptimkennedy.bsky.social pushing for actual investigation & consequences.
06.03.2026 18:52
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brb writing a poem about Nietzsche weeping over Clever Hans, I know the timing's off but apparently I'm not sad enough today
06.03.2026 17:21
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ah man did not know this part
06.03.2026 17:18
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Jo, a small brown and white dog, licking an empty tub of Earth Balance plant butter.
the wolves dream of veganism
06.03.2026 17:00
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I also get choked up thinking about all the good jokes & tunes & spooky stories & clever mnemonics that humans made for the ~50k years before we started writing them down, so I may just be overly-attuned to this kind of cultural vanishing
06.03.2026 16:37
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Forever haunted by the lost paratexts of the internet. A bittersweet thing about NIMONA's mainstream success for example is that I initially read it with a whole subculture of commentary on Tumblr: running gags, debates, interpretative strategies. Less than vapor now.
06.03.2026 16:27
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As a used bookseller, I can attest that people love cheaper, shorter books, which used to be a lot more common. As a sometime creative writing instructor, my god, I would love to see the fat trimmed from so many books. This is a good take.
06.03.2026 16:19
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OMG, yes. Vagaries of internet & my worklife mean that I went from "check these 20 webcomic bookmarks every day" to "sporadically remember they exist and catch up on years at once" and there really is something interesting emotional/parasocial there.
06.03.2026 16:20
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something weirdly poignant about how the narrative forms most suited to long-form plotting (comics, television serials) both developed under capitalism and thus struggle at that very thing due to conditions of production, but can still excel in a kind of textural/formulaic/achronological mode
06.03.2026 16:14
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the peril of satire: every failure is a double-failure
06.03.2026 16:08
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The Adventures Of Twisp And Catsby - Penny Arcade
Videogaming-related online strip by Mike Krahulik and Jerry Holkins. Includes news and commentary.
So bad that I just remembered a Penny Arcade comic from 2004 mocking Kevin Smith, a mental event that a more just society would allow me to litigate over
06.03.2026 16:06
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Gorst, the torture guy from Andor, saying "a sort of choral, agonized authors responding to criticism."
06.03.2026 16:05
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I am hoping this is just very poorly executed satire, because if in earnest this is deeply embarrassing, and way below what I expect from Lit Hub.
06.03.2026 16:04
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Last month I was feeling guilty I'd run into so few cool pieces of SF-related criticism, so of course this month I am positively drowning in them. Some really good reads here.
06.03.2026 14:14
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