In an island environment; whereas in Australia, non-dairy milk options are higher at retail cost on a per liter basis than all but the most expensive dairy milk options.
Stop misreading my statements. Communities want equity in goods & services (which means variety in an overly consumptive market).
I mean, if you're going to start making a decent argument, better late than never.
Again, animal products cause disproportionate emissions in capitalist extractive models, not under mutualistic, ethical production conditions.
Aviation can be done without emissions - people are just in a hurry.
Oh, wow - it's almost like applying Leftist economics to animal welfare systems would improve multi-species treatment, huh? 🙄
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They’re not self-sustaining, because the skill base is steadily migrating. They’re depopulating. You are trying to correct me on demographics you clearly don’t understand. Why are they migrating? Neo-colonial policy with market liberalization entrenched. Again, Leftist economics solve the issue. 😎
What did you think I said about farms? 🤨
Stop misreading my word. Mutualism strengthens biodiversity outcomes. I already said the capitalization of food systems introduces interspecies exploitation, so stick with the rhetoric or stop wasting my time with entrenched arrogance and misapprehension.
Everyone actively partakes in proven emission sources. Humans are electrically charged, gas-producing meatbags fueled by consumption, regardless of form. As I said about asceticism, almost no one lives without hypocrisy. I merely have the good sense not to be cynical about cultivating solutions.
See my point on the distinction between the honey and sugar industries, and where your cost benefit analysis isn’t quite adding up. Again - externalities matter.
You saying, “false” doesn’t make it false. 🤣
It’s unclear what you so for a living, but I don’t know what information you’re willing to ignore to rationalize how localized biodiversity and cultivars wouldn’t impact availability of different types of food.
Gradients of extravagance should be acknowledged (i.e. - honey is often a byproduct of biodiversity enriching mutualism, whereas sugar has led to massive monocropping and human rights violations). The latter is the vegan option. Your false equivalencies with aviation are noted.
Trump is Jim Jones'ing the whole planet right now as he feels the vultures circling his corpulent soul.
Don't drink the kool-aid, fellow humans. Even if it weren't poisoned, it'd still be in poor taste. (Seriously, look at that bloated, stupid, orange clown face… yuck.)
In a world where AI is the automobile of the mind, hop on a bicycle instead.
You’re misinterpreting supply and demand. People urbanize because supply of goods and services isn’t equitably decentralized. This goes back to market access, which - again - becomes problematic in the absence of Leftist economics. If the workers control production, chokepoint capitalism ends. 🙄
Again, comparing inelastic demand (necessities such as food) with elastic demand (luxuries such as international vacations) is a disingenuous, bad faith argument. (You’re not going to be able to achieve any sort of rhetorical upper-hand when you’re neither ethically nor factually in the right.)
That’s not really a sound nutritional comparison by cost. I was comparing local grains to imported grains. But for substitution comparison, coconut cream was certainly a lot cheaper in the islands than actual cream (which is why we use coconuts in my family’s vegan business. 🥥). Locality matters.
Who is “they?” Most people don’t have a grasp of causality beyond simple groupings that affiliate themselves with positions of greater assumed agency.
Separately, your cynicism is deeply distasteful, and it’s why I’ll keep the high ground here.
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Obviously the cooling effect of particulate matter and sulphur don’t justify using the dirty fuel that contains them. Fossil fuels aren’t necessary. Cohabitation between flora and fauna IS necessary for sustainable food systems.
I’ve actually launched a vegan food business, but what about you?🥸
Well, it looks like you’re blithely enjoying your race to the bottom. It’s as distasteful as people’s wanton consumption, in general. Even well-intentioned people cause damage through ignorant action. Somehow you manage, as a vegan, to come across as neither ignorant nor well-intentioned.
CBDR is an acronym for a reason. Pacific Island states didn’t cause these conditions. They were forced into exploitative market arrangements. Your lack of solidarity seems like a core issue preventing you from elevating beyond your cynicism.
Are you not aware of mutualism in interspecies relationship dynamics? 🤨
It’s ironic you keep aping a Ben Shapiro line about facts and feelings, when he is incapable of processing either maturely.
What about the personal feelings of all the Indigenous communities who never wanted to participate in the worldeating ontology you’ve smugly adopted? Fact: they’re threatened.
Tell that to my friends living on atolls who helped establish that 1.5C target in an effort to keep their homes from vanishing. You’re undermining their continued struggle; where’s your sense of South-South cooperation? Did that European arrogance and entitlement settle in that hard, eh?
Ooh - Whataboutism - another logical fallacy rears its head in your replies. I certainly wouldn’t advocate either poor practice. I will say, animal products (such as honey, milk, or eggs) aren’t inherently exploitative, but become so under a system of Capitalism. Hence, Leftist economics are needed.
You keep failing to acknowledge institutional inertia. The portion of the population that sees the problem, dropping whatever anchor they can to slow down our path toward destruction cannot keep us from capsizing as a civilization without decentralized resource management (i.e. - Leftist economics)
Who is this “they” you’re talking about? There is no monolithic grouping beyond recognition that MOST people are insufficiently considerate and place their immediate comfort ahead of their role in creating negative consequences at a systemic level. Who exactly is applying a double-standard to you?
Local fruits and vegetables being cheaper than imported meat, of course - I mentioned imported starches being cheaper than local starches (i.e. - instant noodles are cheaper than taro, for instance). Imported beef is cheaper than local beef. The carbon footprint of food is not reflected in costs.
High sulphur fuel was in reference to its particulate cooling effect. Animal agriculture causes massive methane emissions and land use degradation if practiced improperly, so I am not sure what counterpoint you’re making. Are you talking about planetary health or specifically human health now? 🤨
With the exception of a small selection of (usually monastic) ascetics, everyone embodies some form of hypocrisy, whether they’re aware of acting against their beliefs or interest.
Again, it’s in part a product of flawed system features - like in The Good Place; society precludes lives of virtue.
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Meanwhile, I am reminding people that wading through shit is awful, and everyone else should start walking toward the shore with me, because I can’t make it there with a bunch of wallowing ignorant shit-covered members of society creating structural obstructions to getting out of this awful shit.
