Linda Holmes

Yes. That’s very wise. [shudder]

I went to the ER once and I was very panicked, and what kept coming out of my mouth to the nurses was “I’m sorry. I’m sorry, I’m sorry. I’m sorry.” And to their credit, they were wonderful, kept telling me no, no, don’t apologize, you’re fine, we’re here. But it came, I think, from this same thing.

This is a very smirky group, which you really notice when you endeavor to never watch them with the sound on.

It’s very touching and I like the way they handled it, and it’s also a reminder (an accurate one) that the bar is in the basement, and he is grateful just to be granted a bit of humanity and decency.

I do think it’s one of those things where if you don’t know, you … don’t know! Everything is learning.

People who didn’t know their dishwashers had filters are in for … a possibly unpleasant surprise, but then brighter days ahead.

I mean I don’t think it would be okay to say scurrilous things that you know aren’t true (or you have no idea whether they’re true) about a specific named victim of the Salem witch trials, either. (I know you’re not suggesting otherwise.)

To some degree … yes. I do think time tips this balance toward more freely telling stories and away from a privacy -forward model *although* you always have an obligation to a basic level of responsibility to the memories of the people you portray who are gone, and the lives of those who are alive.

In fact, if you imagine that while one person is flying in at the end of Avengers: Endgame, another person flies in and tries to elbow the first person out of the way out of sheer eagerness? It's like that.

One thing I can tell you about the PCHH team: If you tell the group that you are a little stalled coming up with puns, they will fly in from all directions like in Avengers: Endgame. Puns from all directions. Puns you thought you'd never see again.

I feel like he decided at some point that he was at risk of being considered adorable in a way that would prevent him from being taken seriously, and has decided he’d rather be kind of a snotty pill. Which, like many people, he considers far more interesting than it is, as a personality.

Right. The whole story is "poor Carolyn, hounded by people who wouldn't leave her and her family alone."

Without the apparent self-awareness to be like, "Such as ourselves."

Murphy's shop has gotten away with a lot for a long time.

You will miss nothing.

It's an absurd thing to say. The portrayal is cruel at every turn.

The portrayal is an absolute cartoon.

And finally: Try to watch this show and tell me it’s reasonable to say the portrayal of Daryl Hannah comes from a place of compassion.

Hannah has yet to comment about her inclusion in Love Story, but Jacobson stresses that they took the Kill Bill star's depiction "very seriously" in the writers' room and on set. "We always try to come from a place of compassion," she notes. "Given how much we're rooting for John and Carolyn, Darrell Hannah occupies a space where she's an adversary to what you want narratively in the story. But we still try to really show respect to the fact that she does have a fluency with this world that Carolyn doesn't have. She is able to swim in his tank in a way that is much more difficult for Carolyn."

Here’s the whole quote from the producer:

It’s painful to say, but when people die young, there’s a temptation to graft stories onto them that are simplistic and possibly wrong, for the simple reason that they did not live long enough for all the complications of their stories to play out.

It really underscores how they were interested in a very tragic-romance tale that had no space for who Hannah really is, or who John or Carolyn really were either. How do you know that relationship was good for them? Really, in retrospect, how?

I also think the broader context for that quote is interesting. “We” are rooting for John and Carolyn is a very interesting perspective on this story, because I think it’s *very* possible to watch this and not root for the relationship at all.

I, of course, don't know what's true and what's not true. But what an absolute nightmare that would be.

If everything she says in this piece is true (that the drug use is entirely invented, the pressure for marriage is entirely invented, her insulting treatment of *the Kennedys* is entirely invented), imagine how that would feel. Just reckless.

Here's the gift link re: last RT.

I'm so glad she wrote this. The portrayal of her in this series is, to me, indefensible. She deserves an apology from the filmmakers and FX.

And if you hear yourself saying you portrayed a real person (who's alive!) in a particular way to manipulate your audience, please go improve.

I encourage you to seek out the Raoul Peck documentary ORWELL: 2 + 2 = 5, which makes a pretty compelling case about where Orwell’s actual words (which I don’t think these are?) fit into our current whole deal.

A very good teacher I had in school told me, "Everyone needs to lose a job and fail a test." He positioned it as part of the process of being a person, and it really helped me get past failing something, which I was not used to. But I think you're right: It has to just happen, and you live.

Yyyyyyeah, OUCH.

Noooooooo

Oh no, I don’t think it’s your fault at all.