Has anyone told him ‘no’ yet?
Has anyone told him ‘no’ yet?
It may also just delay the problem. They won’t want to do this twice, and to do so could materially constrain their ability to manage the vehicle appropriately (they have to make statutory distributions, they may need follow on capital for deals, they may already have committed to deals).
You wouldn’t ask <insert name of multistrategy hedge fund here> to pay out more than their stated gates on a given quarter.
It’s not even a liquidity mismatch unless that’s between perception and reality.
Then they have not been appropriately communicated with or read the terms.
Welcome to “appropriate asset liability management”. There are a couple of funds in this category who have structured their underlying investments in such a way that they need new capital coming in consistently, but most are just out here having appropriate structures for the underlying assets.
You are not “limiting withdrawals” if you don’t pay out more than the threshold you established. If retail clients thought they were in a liquid vehicle this is a marketing issue.
HPS out here sticking to the terms they offered
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“Never mind I’ll find someone who is a clear upgrade on you” didn’t scan though.
Controversial position is that the managers should have stuck to their guns on the 5% limit.
Nor today. It’s not an asset liability mismatch, you just don’t like the terms you signed up to. If you add 1) 5% quarterly redemptions and 2) required dividends you are quickly getting to a 20-30% annual payout from private BDCs.
Is this new issue HY spreads at issue or current spreads?
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And that’s ok, because that’s the terms of the vehicle, and no they haven’t “thrown up the gates” (cc: the FT)
Yeah. They’ll still be sitting there just about distributing 5% a quarter in a year’s time.
And it will take a while.
It doesn’t have to sell its loans in the open market. You’ll find out about the problems in the old fashioned way. Slowly, as they can’t refinance.
Down to being completely ineffectual when any fine motor control was required.
At some point the FT will stop mischaracterising the Blue Owl liquidity situation. Today is not that day.
This is a car crash
That’s a long old bus ride…
See also high yield and levered loans. Total yield-based investing has been fun but the hangover will be painful.
-throws a firecracker into a bear den-
"You have to help there are inexplicably lots of angry bears rampaging around!"
My older sister might have taken out Ealing council.
FTR I feel vaguely guilty liking this post.
Charging for hospital parking for visitors to long term residents is the most nefarious thing. Gratifyingly the parking machines at FOHFDad’s hospital rarely work and the hospital seems to take zero interest in enforcing charges… 🤷♀️
Agree, but given that we don’t have that and given that humans are fallible the ability to pivot credibly would be a good start.
Greenland’s back on the menu?
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