This is the first time redemptions have exceeded the cap, so theyβve never paid out more than 5% historically.
This is the first time redemptions have exceeded the cap, so theyβve never paid out more than 5% historically.
28 years in the club. I have recommendations.
βYou see, what is happening to BDCs is similar to the Bodyline tour becauseβ¦β
New followers turning up for credit content and instead you get one of the worldβs best bowlers ever. Ever.
when your nickname is Whispering Death and your opponents gave it to you, well that kinda says enough
Has anyone told him βnoβ yet?
It may also just delay the problem. They wonβt want to do this twice, and to do so could materially constrain their ability to manage the vehicle appropriately (they have to make statutory distributions, they may need follow on capital for deals, they may already have committed to deals).
You wouldnβt ask <insert name of multistrategy hedge fund here> to pay out more than their stated gates on a given quarter.
Itβs not even a liquidity mismatch unless thatβs between perception and reality.
Then they have not been appropriately communicated with or read the terms.
Welcome to βappropriate asset liability managementβ. There are a couple of funds in this category who have structured their underlying investments in such a way that they need new capital coming in consistently, but most are just out here having appropriate structures for the underlying assets.
You are not βlimiting withdrawalsβ if you donβt pay out more than the threshold you established. If retail clients thought they were in a liquid vehicle this is a marketing issue.
HPS out here sticking to the terms they offered
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βNever mind Iβll find someone who is a clear upgrade on youβ didnβt scan though.
Controversial position is that the managers should have stuck to their guns on the 5% limit.
Nor today. Itβs not an asset liability mismatch, you just donβt like the terms you signed up to. If you add 1) 5% quarterly redemptions and 2) required dividends you are quickly getting to a 20-30% annual payout from private BDCs.
Is this new issue HY spreads at issue or current spreads?
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And thatβs ok, because thatβs the terms of the vehicle, and no they havenβt βthrown up the gatesβ (cc: the FT)
Yeah. Theyβll still be sitting there just about distributing 5% a quarter in a yearβs time.
And it will take a while.
It doesnβt have to sell its loans in the open market. Youβll find out about the problems in the old fashioned way. Slowly, as they canβt refinance.
Down to being completely ineffectual when any fine motor control was required.
At some point the FT will stop mischaracterising the Blue Owl liquidity situation. Today is not that day.
This is a car crash
Thatβs a long old bus rideβ¦
See also high yield and levered loans. Total yield-based investing has been fun but the hangover will be painful.
-throws a firecracker into a bear den-
"You have to help there are inexplicably lots of angry bears rampaging around!"
My older sister might have taken out Ealing council.
FTR I feel vaguely guilty liking this post.