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Also, hi Boris. 👋

Ngl, this has been me and shakotans form of relaxing

Old van from the 80’s and a long ride on country roads

— this type of stuff needs to be restructured or at least shunned away from the public media as a whole.

And combating censorship by promoting this stuff is a double negative.

It’s not a good look when the side calling lgbt cousin fuckers and pedos is seeing us support them against censorship

—been good, and on a small scale test of removing this content from effected people’s lives, it has helped, normalizing is not good, and censorship is not good, the crux of my argument has not been to support censorship, as the laws are poorly worded and has an alt motive. But instead—

I’ve done nothing but research into the psychology of online interaction as well as offline. We have had nothing but constant growth of problems faced with the growth of this type of content being normalized

As someone who comes from a section of the mental health field. This stuff has not—

The more shit gets normalized, the more it warps people’s perception of the real thing. And in turn will cause more real life problems as well as ignore people who have suffered these real life problems

Jailing and medication is fickle yes, but allowing it to be normalized is also a slippery slope, as much as I clown on this shit, punishments in fines, or small slaps on the wrists, or SOMEThing. Would work better than nothing

I agree with all these points, however, normally when therapists suggest you to draw these things is if you have an interest in art, and they don’t expect you to publicly post them for the sake of earning money.

They’re also not expecting you to draw hardcore smut.

You wouldn’t believe the accusations on my character, as if I’m not a victim myself smh

you're losing sense

You can’t read, that’s why I draw pictures

Drawpile

My points have not been “WE SHOULD BAN ALL PORN”

It has been, “we should look into restructuring what is ‘allowed’”

Fictional or not, child porn is child porn

-exclaim that child porn isn’t bad, so how can I take from that?

You don’t know my political leanings, but surprisingly they are the same as yours, however , you’re ignorant to understand that there is real problems online, and you’re afraid of losing control over it in a fascist regime

You’ve done nothing but assume, and now you’re pissing and crying because I deflected it back?

Sure, call me a nazi or whatever, but it’s crazy how you attack one of your own in the sake of wanting to protect child porn.

You don’t read what I’ve said, and I’ve explained my views, yet, you still-

You’re the one that wasted your time on a discussion that clearly you don’t understand, if you wanna jerk of to kids, be my guest, but that’s fucking weird, and you should be ashamed.

Imagine believing that in the state of our political climate, I’d be only distracted with porn, crazy

So you’re assuming that me, bitching about the depections of minors on the Internet, is distracting me from real problems?

Not everyone is a single focal point, you’ve assumed and put words in my mouth the whole debate, taking what as I say as an attack on you and our community.

You’re assuming I vote for these bills? Crazy work. Don’t know how many times I have to say these bills are not good

It’s clear you haven’t been reading what I say and have been trying to convince me that spanking it to child porn should be praised

So when does your point come back to the topic at hand?

Because it’s clear that you’re worried about a vastly different thing than I am, and are assuming that the ban on incest will lead to full government control. Where in that law does it dictate that all porn is incest to have you worried.

—Then you need professional help.

The further you indulge , the more normal you associate it, and will ultimately be arguing points like this.

So what’s your point? Depections of murder and other nefarious acts are concerning and have reason for concern. And depending on the severity, will likely and reasonably contact authorities

If you’re not hurting real people but express a desire to do so with a clear interest in it—

Art is an expression of an artist if you’re expressing a desire to fuck kids, then I’m gonna think you’re gonna want to fuck kids , it’s simple, at what point does art of child porn become something that isn’t child porn ?

You brought up the fact that groomers are everywhere, and that I’m blind for pointing at obvious signs.

At what point does child porn become harmful or not?

It’s the same thing it’s all bad. We call out artists for doing this shit in private, but politically protect them? Make it make sense

There are real problems in our communities that are allowed to fester due to the content they allow and support.

I’m far from puritan, but I find it baffling how the outrage to keep the people we’ve actively tried to remove from our communities for years

I feel like I’ve been talking to brick walls.

Of course it’s never just gonna be ‘just that’ so is the nature of all laws.

If you were to walk into a bathroom and see

“Please don’t shit in the sink” and assume that they’re gonna take away your right to shit in the toilet, is a wholeotherthing

Criminals are gonna hide, and some are gonna show off what they do. That’s just how it is

And what you’re discussing now is a completely different topic

Groomers can hide and not proudly show off their a groomer.

There’s different levels of it.

What you’re implying is that, because some groomers are into different porn, that means they’re gonna target that porn now

At the end of the day, you can’t protect everyone, but you can corner real problems.

And ‘fictional’ CSAM is a real problem, despite your belief. You can’t just draw a line and say ‘this child porn is okay, but not THAT one’

Better parental control is a given. And should be taught and inforced if you have a child and internet action. However. Allowing pedophilic content to continue to thrive, is not good. And will only develop into the acceptance of that content, as we are discussing now.

Like sure, the evil government is going to look at that and think “you know what they have a point”

Nah. They’re gonna try even harder to push for censorship

The whole discussion is inconsistent from person to person, and as hard as I try to keep the topic on the problem. It’s diverted into censorship

Like, yes, that’s bad, but don’t you think promoting CSAM to protest against it is a little counter intuitive?